dvorak + emacs

On Sep 1, 1:54 pm, Josef Wolf wrote:
> On 2010-08-30, Xah Lee wrote:
> > might be interesting.
> > 〈Dvorak, Matron, de-ergo, NEO, Colemak, Programer Dvorak, Keyboard
> > Layouts Fight!〉http://xahlee.org/kbd/dvorak_and_all_keyboard_layouts.html
> I once tried to learn dvorak, and actually got so far that I could touch
> type (NB: with qwertz, I type quite fast, but can't touch type). I found
> dvorak much more efficient and ergonomic. But then, I came back to emacs
> and found that I was no longer able to find all the key combinations. Even
> C-x C-s was hard to get used to. So I resigned on dvorak and came back to
> emacs.
> So now to my question: whats the best way to get used again to emacs with
> a dvorak (or better: NEO) layout? Anybody out there who managed this?

i type dvorak since 1994 and started to use emacs in 1997, so i actually never had qwerty+emacs experience.

i don't find any problem with dvorak+emacs.

since i switched to a split ergonomic keyboard in 2006, i do find it a problem for Ctrl+x. So i swapped it with Ctrl+t. That solves it. (dvorak x is qwerty's b; the dvorak t is qwerty's k)

also, you can try a ErgoEmacs keybinding.

〈ErgoEmacs Keybinding〉 http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html

〈Emacs, Dvorak, C-x〉 http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_dvorak_C-x.html

〈A Review of The Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000〉 http://xahlee.org/emacs/ms_keyboard/ms_natural_keyboard_4000.html

If you search the web for the dvorak+emacs you'll find many accounts of dvorak+emacs users don't do anything special. (and i've read same for vi. I use vi occationally, and don't find any problem at all. the cursor keys, hjkl is no longer on the home row, but is still not bad.)

〈Emergency vi (vi tutorial)〉 http://xahlee.org/emacs/emergency_vi.html

on Mac, there's a dvorak layout that support qwerty when modifier is down. Some people find that great. I've always went full dvorak so never cared for it. Though, in last 3 years of intensive keyboarding studies, i find that having z x c v scattered is quite inconvenient.

Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄

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